Everyone working on KDE Frameworks Five and Plasma Workspaces 2 is eager to bring you the next iteration of the desktop experience. However, wouldn’t it be awesome if you could play with all the shiny stuff just a bit earlier? 😉
I’ll assume you’re nodding your head right about now, so without further ado I give you Project Neon 5 ISO’s which are designed to give you a glimpse into how things are shaping up in the Frameworks 5 and Plasma Workspaces 2 world. Complete with an installer!
However, I *highly* recommend NOT installing this directly onto your machine, as it’s not even meant to be a tech preview, but more of a this *will* eat kittens release. If you really want to install it, I’d recommend using KVM or VirtualBox. Out of the box you get the Neon 5 daily PPA, upgrade and things might not work, the only supported path for upgrades is reinstalling the next ISO that comes out.
If you’re interested in the nitty-gritty details of how the ISO is made, you can checkout the scripts over here.
There’s also a known bug where plasma-shell crashes on boot, we’re still investigating that and the best way to fix it is to either start plasma-shell via the xterm window or just rebooting your virtual machine a couple of times.
Are there any torrents available?
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At the moment, nope, sorry, I don’t think the KDE infrastructure is desgined to serve files via torrents.
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An x86_64 image? Intended to run on Virtualbox? Come on.
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Why not? it works.
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x86_64 is more or less the future, if you want a i386 image, please checkout the scripts, I’ll add documentation on how to make i386 images to the README.
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“more or less the future”?
half-present in smartphones already…
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Thank you for your work, it’s good to see the “port” to the newer Qt etc going well… I got the Neon5 image running in VirtualBox no problem; I also had to start plasma-shell from console.
One thing that bothers me about KDE at the moment (I’m on Kubuntu 13.10) is that a considerable amount of “snappiness” has gone in the last few major releases… no; it’s not my machine (8 core Xeon, 16GB DDR3 RAM, fast Nvidia card etc) this machine benchmarks pretty well; all the OpenGL stuff runs correctly etc.
I’m not sure if the Plasma Desktop stuff is to blame; I find it hard to name all the KDE subsystems accurately 🙂
I wonder what kind of instrumentation is available (compile time switches?) to accurately diagnose latency in the user interface? I wonder if there’s been some effort at pinpointing exactly which subsystem are eating the cycles (eg: is it X11 eating it all? compositing?)
Lastly I wonder if there is some deliberate hysteresis (time delays) introduced to allow time to actually see the effects – and that I am interpreting this as busy code?
(oh, and feel free to point me to somewhere more appropriate for KDE performance questions…)
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I’d use the nvidia binary blobs, though actually the open source drivers should be good enough to get a smooth Kwin experience. Set the Qt Graphics system (under the advanced tab of Desktop Effects settings) to Raster and Compositing type to OpenGL. I have three systems using quite different hardware and I have not noticed any slow down in snappiness over the last million releases (exaggeration). One computer’s an AMD A10-5800K with Radeon 7660D graphics (a year old), another is an Ivy Bridge Core i5 with HD 4000 graphics (half year old), and another is a geezer Core Solo ULV (one core, ~1Ghz, ~6 years old). Even the Core Solo performs pretty well!
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Hiya
Please use the KDE Forums to get support for KDE 4 related issues.
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Are there more than one Plasmas?
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Currently there is just the one. I am unsure whether more Shell’s are in the work.
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Trying an install with kvm , vm-install says there is no valid boot sector on the iso.
Most likely I am going about it wrong.
Any advice will be greatly appreciated.
My setup: kvm in opensuse 13.1
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Boots fine with KVM here : http://i.imgur.com/h70Lqtd.png
I have qemu-kvm 1.6.0
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Also qemu-kvm 1.6.0
Will try again, if still no cigar will redownload the iso.
…thanks.
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You won’t have much luck with KVM, I’d recommend virtual box. KVM isn’t really suited for the more advanced graphics we use, and the system hasn’t been optimized at all yet for the “no hw accel at all” case.
I’ve tried it, and suitably failed for these reasons.
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Installed. Not much to see, screen display hard to see. I cannot see a kickoff menu. Attempted to change desktop settings, but the buttons do not respond.
…my experiences so far.
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…replying to myself 🙂 – periodically I’ll download the iso to see how things are progressing.
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Hello, where can I get the latest image? The link in your post has no informations about the iso, it only says “an HTTP and WebDAV client library”
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Please read the post again.
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@Sebastian Kugler: Thanks for to info. Looks great with virtual box.
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Which version of live-build are you using to generate the images?
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I’m using 3.0~a57-1ubuntu9 from Trusty. Technically speaking, it should also work with the live-build from Saucy.
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That sounds like an odd version number (~a denoted alpha, while 3.0 has been released with Wheezy and currently 4.0~ax is in development), but ok.
The reason I asked was that I’d like to try to create sth like you have, but then for Debian.
But there’s a reasonable chance that it’s out of my league 😉
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Ubuntu usually is super slow with updating live-build since it’s a huge task to merge changes from Debian. And sometimes things go wrong. So I have to make do with what I have.
Regarding making one with Debian, It’s not trivial, but but very difficult as well. Just needs a custom repo where you can throw KF5 packages, include that repo in config/archives and voila you can make a KF5 Debian ISO
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Then you may consider using upstream’s versions on http://live.debian.net. The manual explains clearly how to do that and since there aren’t many dependencies wrt live-build, it shouldn’t be a problem. And when you do hit an issue wrt debian-live, there’s a very helpful ML to turn to: http://lists.debian.org/debian-live/.
Whether you bother with it, is up to you of course 😉
When/If I try to build one for Debian, I’ll post my config on https://github.com/diederikdehaas
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Disregard my last comment, it looks like “mode ubuntu” is not (really) supported.
I’ve had a go at it, but it consistently fails in the “lb binary_syslinux” phase, because the vmlinuz is in ‘binary/casper’ dir and not in the ‘binary/live’ dir. It maybe easy to patch, but it’ll be to much hassle for me.
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I get a 403 error when I try to download
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Permission issues on the server with the updated image. Please try one of the files from http://files.kde.org/snapshots/ while I get the issue sorted out with the sysadmins 🙂 Regards Rohan Garg
On Sun, Jan 26, 2014 at 3:49 PM, shadeslayer's Blog
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thanks
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Hahahahahahaha, this politics related YouTube video is actually so comic, I liked it. Thanks in support of sharing this. cfdkbedcckde
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What? 0.o
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Reblogged this on My Misc Rantings & reblogs..
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What is the password for the ‘Live Session User’? I am trying it under VMware, and a very nice KDM splash screen appears, which prompts me to enter the password. I tried ‘neon’ but it does not work.
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ahh, it’s ‘kubuntu’ ! Thanks a lot for this this preview iso!
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Interesting, though you should be able to login without a password 🙂
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The password ‘kubuntu’ does not work for me. Has it been changed?
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Hi There is no password, just hit enter at the login screen.
Regards Rohan Garg
On Mon, Aug 25, 2014 at 4:04 PM, shadeslayer's Blog wrote:
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On further investigation, I could login by leaving the password field blank. (Ref:http://askubuntu.com/questions/103896/live-cd-asks-for-a-username-and-password)
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Missing wifi options in kde 5 neon
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